Bad drug trips lead to hell; Incel spirituality

And other titbits

I came across this reddit post on the r/Jung sub, which I wanted to repost in full:

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I am now terrified of the afterlife after taking mushrooms.

So I was on vacation with my buddies and we decided to have a trip. We buy 26 g’s of penis envy mushrooms and split all of them amongst the 4 of us. Anyone reading this is gonna spit on me for telling you that we didn’t have a trip sitter and 2 of my buddies had only tripped once, a few days prior to this. Walking into it I warned everyone how potent this dose is and how we have to be careful, and they figured they were all ready for what was to come. Fast forward about 2 hours when all of my friends are having this magical conversation trying to get my attention while I’m nodding off completely unresponsive. During this time I’m having a trip in my head where everyone in the room is stuck in a loop with me that’s all being made up in my head. Eventually this loop gets so tight that I end up convincing myself that the life I had lived up until this point was completely an illusion of the hell that had now been made visible to me. I was paralyzed and completely stuck in what I assumed was hell. A booming voice heard outside of this plane of existence was mocking my every attempt to wake up from this trip. It was letting me know that I was never going to be able to leave and it would be a very long and painful eternity. I start feeling claws and hands all over my body but couldn’t see any of them but I was 100% certain they were there. I start feeling as if someone is grabbing me and taking control. I start tweaking out, bitting my fingers, throwing myself into a crucifix position, falling to the floor and continuing to tweak out. I’m terrified as I feel myself being possessed by the devil. I think this is it, and then darkness. I completely forget everything up until I start to wake up a couple hours later, standing up sweating bullets feeling like I was burned alive completely discombobulated and still feeling as if I hadn’t woken up yet. I collapse to the ground next to my buddies petrified with fear and pain. I couldn’t necessarily remember it, but I knew I had just came back from hell.

During that time I went unconscious before I woke up, my friends told me that I had been responding to questions in the third person “bro are you okay?””He’s not okay.” And saying things like “he’s being burned alive, his skin is being ripped off, all of his bones are being crushed.” At one point my girlfriend called my best friend to check on me because she knew I was tripping, and she asked me what I was doing and I responded, “He’s fucking hoes.”

After I had finished the trip and discussed it till the sunrise with my friends, I went to sleep and when I woke up the next morning I had found myself with a new fear of the afterlife. I have always believed in the afterlife not necessarily a religious one but definitely an experience after death and I’ve always been excited up until this trip. Now I find myself sweating when I think that what I experienced could be one of the billions of possibilities of what exist outside of our life.

Please discuss this with me, I’d love to share more details and I’d love a jungian analysis and whatnot! I’m 18 years old and would love to hear from anyone who wants to be heard!

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Pretty heady stuff, but you guys need to see this. It’s exactly due to cases like this that I warn people about drugs and especially mixing it with any sort of spirituality. This is dangerous stuff and for those with a keen eye, it’s obvious, that this person, still a child basically, was possessed by a demon and ended up in hell for a short while. He could have easily died and that way he would be stuck there for essentially an eternity. People play around with psychedelic drugs as if they were toys, but one mistake and there’s no going back, you can be paying the price for millions of years! I am simply appalled that so many people today don’t take this issue more seriously.

I have a habit of helping people out on reddit and other forums, with spiritual advice, something I’ve been doing for years and I can’t even count the number of people I’ve come across, who suffered serious spiritual and psychiatric damage due to drug use, including from cannabis!!!

One guy I met online was constantly tortured in body and mind by forces unseen. He suffered some sort of psychotic break and his life became a living hell. He admitted that this was triggered by drug use, but there was nothing he could do about it. Once you lose your mind, it is next to impossible to regain it.

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The incel phenomenon and its spiritual aspects

A reader, Eric Neal, brought up the issue of incelism and how it is connected to spiritual beliefs. I thought this was an interesting topic, so I will discuss it briefly.

Full disclosure: I am a volcel, or voluntary celibate. I ended my last relationship, because it was more trouble than it was worth and I frankly, never had much interest in dating and relationships just for the sake of them. If I dated at all, it was usually because a woman showed interest in me and I thought it only polite to indulge her, but I think most of them felt, that my heart was never really in it. I was always more interested in intellectual and spiritual matters, even as a teenager. My peers were out drinking and chasing girls (thankfully, drugs weren’t a thing in Hungary at the time) whilst I was at home reading, studying scripture, meditating and thinking deeply.

I understand, that for most people getting married and having children is the right path and society depends on it, but for me, this was never the path I felt I had to walk.

I have some friends, who are incels. They would very much like to have a relationship and are mostly sexually frustrated, but they don’t know how and usually suffer from social issues. One of them is autistic, but quite brilliant in his own way. The other friend I have in this category is very accomplished and successful, in his fifties now, but has incredibly high standards and simply refuses to lower them. The last time he met a woman, that met his exacting standards, he was in his twenties. I think he simply refuses to accept, that he is older now and must settle.

I have also come across many femcels, who are incredibly common in Asia, where they’re called leftover women. I’ve even dated one, a lovely and educated girl from Thailand with perfect English (she went to university in Australia and we both worked for the same company). The relationship didn’t last, mostly because she was so frustrated about running out of time and wanted to get married yesterday, which I wasn’t so keen on, especially after such a short courtship period. During my time in Asia I met many more of these leftover women (that’s what they’re called, don’t blame me for the misogynistic undertones of the term, please), who are usually left over so to speak, due to them concentrating on their education and career in their twenties, then finding there is no demand for them on the marriage market once they hit their thirties. In Asia, a woman is considered too old, if she doesn’t marry until age 25, after that she will most likely remain a spinster for life. These women are generally virgins too as sex outside marriage is considered a no-no in these traditional Confucian, Buddhist, etc… cultures. There are also incels in large numbers, but probably leftover women outnumber them, especially in China.

All this is a huge social problem, with no obvious solution.

But, on to the spiritual implications. I am rather more sympathetic towards incels and femcels than society as a whole, who tend to judge them rather harshly. My personal opinion is that incels are generally socially inept and don’t have the social skills to interact with women, not least due to the social isolation caused by modern technology. It doesn’t help, that dating has largely moved online, where it’s all about looks, so unattractive people get no matches at all. Attractive people are bombarded by so many messages, that they can barely respond to a fraction of them, so the whole marketplace just doesn’t work and this is now showing up in declining user bases and profits for these companies.

In the olden days, professional matchmakers made sure, that everyone was paired up with a roughly equivalent marriage prospect, in terms of attractiveness and social standing, but this is no longer the case and the few matchmakers that remain are frustrated by the impossibly high standards of their clients.

This all points to a general narcissism and solipsism when it comes to dating. Simply put everyone thinks very highly of themselves and think they deserve the best, whilst objectively, that simply cannot be true of everyone.

There is also a male-female divide in how each sex experiences the difficulties of dating in the modern world. Women generally can always find men willing to sleep with them, but finding a man who is a serious marriage prospect and would want to settle down with them is getting harder each passing year. Men, on the other hand, are finding, that if they are below average, or even just average (in terms of looks, social standing, etc…), they can’t even get past the first hurdle, which is getting a woman interested in them and going on at least a date. Some women, who are deemed unattractive also suffer from this predicament, but perhaps to a lesser extent and in smaller numbers.

There is a spiritual component to this, that is completely ruining the dating marketplace. Religions exist by-and-large, to restrict human sexual behaviour and enforce monogamy. Since religion went into decline and has all-but-disappeared in large parts of the world, we have gradually moved away from monogamy and are returning to some sort of pre-civilisational animal kingdom standard, where only a small number of men reproduce at all, whereas most women still do. Even that is changing, as most women are now projected to be single and childless for life, mostly out of choice.

During the process of creation, God created Male and Female deliberately, as it is through the union of the two, that people gain the ability to create, by producing children and thus founding or continuing a tribe or nation. The story of Abraham and how through the grace of God, he managed to be the founder of an entirely new tribe and nation, that endures to this day, is so powerful for this reason. Monogamy is, in fact, a social construct (or, a commandment of God, if you will), that is the bedrock of civilisation. Throughout history, it had to be enforced through institutions, like the church and laws, that prohibited or restricted divorce and adultery. Whilst this restricted individual freedom and subjugated individuals to serve the greater good, by sacrificing some of their freedoms, in exchange, the vast majority of people got to form stable two-parent families and bring up children in a nurturing and safe environment. This was also an economic necessity at the time, as lives were harsh, short and brutish. By joining their lives together, men and women had a much better chance for survival and more importantly, the continuation of their genetic line, which is the imperative driving a lot of our decisions today.

Richard Dawkins writes about this genetic imperative in his book, the Selfish Gene (he may be a bad philosopher, but he is indubitably an excellent biologist), where he examines how we often do things that are individually bad for us, but is good for the survival of our genes. Short-term mating strategies are a typical example of this, so if someone ends up scratching their head as to how they have inadvertently ended up a parent of children they never wanted or planned in the first place, their genes and the animal instincts that drive sexual behaviour are to blame for it.

The role of religion and civilisation as a whole, which is built on it, is to restrict and overcome animal instincts. Unrestricted instinctual behaviour would lead to frequent murders and rapes, incest and all manner of social ills. We have now loosened this relationship or covenant between the individual and society, increasingly excusing animalistic, instinctual behaviour, at least in terms of sexuality, though thankfully not (yet) in other areas. There are consequences to allowing unrestricted sexual freedom to all individuals in a society, as it leads to a regression to pre-civilisational norms. As this progresses, we can expect social breakdown, mostly fuelled by armies of young men that are deemed an unattractive prospect by most women, currently called incels, but as they increasingly become the majority, we can probably expect the movement to take a different form and get another name. I suspect that the existence of “Asian” (a British euphemism for Islamic) rape gangs in the UK, semi-sanctioned by the government (at least they turn a blind eye for now) is a preview of coming attractions. It is estimated, that over the last 40 years, hundreds of thousands of young Christian and Sikh girls, most of them children, have fallen victim of these rape gangs. Yet, the government not only doesn’t do a thing about it, it covers it up and criminalises even discussing the topic as the treatment of activists, like Tommy Robinson has clearly shown.

If you wonder what is fuelling race riots in the UK right now, this issue lies very much at the heart of the problem. Society is falling apart, due to the destruction of monogamy and the family unit, leading to the sort of civil unrest we are witnessing now. This will only get worse and as Elon Musk has recently tweeted, civil war in all of these post-modern societies, that encourage the destruction of the family and mass immigration from incompatible cultures, is becoming inevitable.